Konference: SAPI-1 a československé mikropočítače
| Od: | Radek Suk |
| Datum: | 1.9.2012 22:56 |
| Předmět: | Re: Deska ARB1C - vyroba |
Ahoj Petre Chci se optat zda budes delat nejakou soupisku soucastek a doporuceni co koupit. Jedna se mi o to zda doporucis nejaky typ kondenzatoru podle dielektrika, treba ze sortimentiu GME. Take se chci optat kde se daji koupit nove nepouzite AT a hlavne ATX konektory nebo to budete vsichny vyndavat z pouzitych desek? Take se chci Petre optat co maji ty 10KOhm odpory resit? Ty pises ze to resi odrazy ale podle mne to resi jen definovani napeti v pripade neaktivovaneho zadneho budice ale zadny odraz to neresi. Jedna se mi o to ze na desce je Z0 cca 100ohmu a tak kdyz dobehne vlna elektronu na konec desky tak se jen odrazi. Vetsina elektronu nema sanci projit tim odporem. Ja premyslim ze kdyz bude na sbernici problem s odrazy tak dam na pozici X15 a pripadne X16 na kazdy vyvod rychlou spinanou diodu a druhou stranu diody dam na +3,3V - to by melo omezit pripadne prepeti na sbernici pri odrazu vlny. Jinak FRB konektory mam jiz objednane. Pan reaguje velmi rychle. Radek Dne 30.8.2012 23:19, EC1045 (sapi tu byla ta zakroucena vec pandora.cz) napsal(a): > rodil mezi ARB-1 a ARB-1C je v tom ze ma jine budice a vice konektoru jinak > jsou stejne > > odpory R6 az R9 jsou pridany kvuli tomu ze jirka biba ma (mel) v lpanu > ARB-1C skratin na standartni delku ARB-1 cimz bi nebilo kam dat zatezujici > odpory co jsou na puvodni ARB-1 (IOR, IOW, MR, MW) zakoncovaci orpory SIP > jsou prdany z toho duvodu ze uz je zbernice prilis dlouha a muzou se obevit > probleby s odrazi a jine neprijemnosti > > JP3 je pridan pro pripad pouzity procesorove desky PKT-1 ze SAPI-1.5 > kdy 1-2 trvale adstavy 8282/8286 cimz se defakto rijde o jeden konektor ale > zbitek zbernice bude zcela pasivni tak jak to je u SAPI-1.5 (aspon podlele > PKT-1 by to tak melo byt) > 2-3 normalni funkce budicu jak na ARB-1 > > ac to nebilo zamerem ale lze osadit i budice 8286 > > dele katalogu TESLA da MHB8282 (8286) > v L max 32mA (max 32mA strana B) > v H max 5mA (max 5mA strana B) > > knihovny mohu nahrat ale mam je na jine masine takze az nekdy > chces jen ty konkretni knihovny co jsou pouzity na ARB-1C nebo vsechny ktere > jsem upravoval (ci vytvarel) > (knihovny co maji na zacatku "#_mm" jsou prispusobeny pro mm rastr) > > >> >> Kluci nijak jsem se o vlastni schema predtim detailne nezajimal a verim >> ze to mate zkontrolovany. Ale souhlasim ze kazdy se ma na to podivat a >> rici vse co ma na srdci a zodpovida za projekt. A tim padem zaplati i >> pripadny zmetek :-). >> >> - Proto se chci optat jak bude zapojeny JP3. Jestli pin 1 bude >> nezapojeny a mezi 2 a 3 bude klema? >> - Zda mam pravdu ze I8282 muze napajet az 20 IO typu 74xx. A az 80 IO >> 74LSxx. >> - Zda Petr da do samostatneho adresare knihovny co nejsou soucasti Eaglu. >> >> Dik za odpoved. >> >> Radek >> >> >> Partlist >> >> Exported from ARB-1C_ZPC.brd at 30.8.2012 22:16:47 >> >> EAGLE Version 5.6.0 Copyright (c) 1988-2009 CadSoft >> >> Part Value Package Library Position >> (mm) Orientation >> >> C1 15n C025-024X044 rcl (223.75 >> 110) R90 >> C2 15n C025-024X044 rcl (203.75 >> 110) R90 >> C3 15n C025-024X044 rcl (183.75 >> 110) R90 >> C4 15n C025-024X044 rcl (163.75 >> 110) R90 >> C5 15n C025-024X044 rcl (143.75 >> 110) R90 >> C6 15n C025-024X044 rcl (123.75 >> 110) R90 >> C7 15n C025-024X044 rcl (221.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C8 15n C025-024X044 rcl (201.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C9 15n C025-024X044 rcl (181.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C10 15n C025-024X044 rcl (161.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C11 15n C025-024X044 rcl (141.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C12 15n C025-024X044 rcl (121.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C13 22n C050-024X044 rcl (221.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C14 22n C050-024X044 rcl (201.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C15 22n C050-024X044 rcl (181.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C16 22n C050-024X044 rcl (161.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C17 22n C050-024X044 rcl (141.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C18 22n C050-024X044 rcl (121.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C19 22n C050-024X044 rcl (218.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C20 22n C050-024X044 rcl (198.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C21 22n C050-024X044 rcl (178.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C22 22n C050-024X044 rcl (158.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C23 22n C050-024X044 rcl (138.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C24 22n C050-024X044 rcl (118.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C25 47u E25-9 rcl (250 >> 30) R180 >> C26 47u E25-9 rcl (281.25 >> 41.25) R270 >> C27 47u E25-9 rcl (290 >> 41.25) R270 >> C28 47u E25-9 rcl (298.75 >> 41.25) R270 >> C29 15n C025-024X044 rcl (103.75 >> 110) R90 >> C30 15n C025-024X044 rcl (83.75 >> 110) R90 >> C31 15n C025-024X044 rcl (63.75 >> 110) R90 >> C32 15n C025-024X044 rcl (43.75 >> 110) R90 >> C33 15n C025-024X044 rcl (23.75 >> 110) R90 >> C34 15n C025-024X044 rcl (263.75 >> 110) R90 >> C35 15n C025-024X044 rcl (101.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C36 15n C025-024X044 rcl (81.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C37 15n C025-024X044 rcl (61.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C38 15n C025-024X044 rcl (41.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C39 15n C025-024X044 rcl (21.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C40 15n C025-024X044 rcl (261.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C41 22n C050-024X044 rcl (98.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C42 22n C050-024X044 rcl (78.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C43 22n C050-024X044 rcl (58.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C44 22n C050-024X044 rcl (38.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C45 22n C050-024X044 rcl (18.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C46 15n C025-024X044 rcl (243.75 >> 110) R90 >> C47 22n C050-024X044 rcl (101.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C48 22n C050-024X044 rcl (81.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C49 22n C050-024X044 rcl (61.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C50 22n C050-024X044 rcl (41.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C51 22n C050-024X044 rcl (21.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C52 15n C025-024X044 rcl (241.25 >> 107.5) R90 >> C53 22n C050-024X044 rcl (261.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> C54 22n C050-024X044 rcl (258.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C55 22n C050-024X044 rcl (238.75 >> 111.25) R90 >> C56 22n C050-024X044 rcl (241.25 >> 63.75) R90 >> IC1 8282-A DIL20 micro-siemens_MP (287.02 >> 83.82) R90 >> IC2 8282-A DIL20 micro-siemens_MP (261.27 >> 88.9) R90 >> JP1 JP1 jumper_MP (218.125 >> 38.125) MR0 >> JP2 JP4 jumper_MP (303.49 >> 20.26) MR90 >> JP3 JP2 jumper_MP (277.5 >> 60) MR270 >> R1 10k 0207/10 rcl (22.5 >> 122.5) R90 >> R2 10k 0207/10 rcl (20 >> 123.75) R90 >> R3 10k 0207/10 rcl (25 >> 125) R90 >> R4 10k 0207/10 rcl (17.5 >> 121.25) R90 >> R5 10k 0207/10 rcl (285.75 >> 67.29) R0 >> R6 10k 0207/7 #_mm_rcl_u (117.5 >> 56.25) R270 >> R7 10k 0207/7 #_mm_rcl_u (123.75 >> 57.5) R270 >> R8 10k 0207/7 #_mm_rcl_u (137.5 >> 58.75) R270 >> R9 10k 0207/5V #_mm_rcl_u (143.75 >> 58.75) R270 >> RN3 10k SIL9 resistor-sil_MP (2.5 >> 44.375) R90 >> RN4 10k SIL9 resistor-sil_MP (5 >> 45.625) R90 >> RN5 10k SIL9 resistor-sil_MP (2.5 >> 68.125) R90 >> RN6 10k SIL9 resistor-sil_MP (5 >> 69.375) R90 >> RN7 10k SIL9 resistor-sil_MP (2.5 >> 91.875) R270 >> RN8 10k SIL9 resistor-sil_MP (5 >> 93.125) R270 >> X1 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (266.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X2 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (226.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X3 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (206.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X4 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (186.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X5 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (166.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X6 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (146.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X7 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (126.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X8 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (86.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X9 SAPI_ARB_NAP_TX_MP TX5143042/30B con-FRB_TESLA (292.75 >> 24.5) MR180 >> X10 TY_WK18022 TY_WK18022 con-FRB_TESLA (289.75 >> 131.75) R0 >> X11 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (106.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X12 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (66.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X13 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (46.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X14 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (26.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X15 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (6.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X16 TX5186242/62B con-FRB_TESLA (246.75 >> 34.75) R270 >> X17 ATX24_PWR KATX24 con-pc (206.385 >> 26.65) MR180 >> X18 AT_P8_PWR KAT6 con-pc (218.265 >> 15.22) MR0 >> X19 AT_P9_PWR KAT6 con-pc (194.505 >> 15.22) MR0 >> >> >> >> Dne 30.8.2012 22:13, Jardax (sapi tu byla ta zakroucena vec pandora.cz) napsal(a): >>> Petr byl rychlejsi :) >>> To je ona, takze je Beno ma, to je fajn. >>> >>> Dne 30.8.2012 22:06, Radek Suk (sapi tu byla ta zakroucena vec pandora.cz) napsal(a): >>>> Kluci chci se optat zda vhodna vlozka pro tento konektor pro tu ARB1C >>>> kartu je tato vlozka >>>> >http://www.elektrobazar.com/catalog/product/51032-prislusenstvi-konektoru-frb-a
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